WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.067 --> 00:00:02.067 Have you ever kept track of how much time you spend 2 00:00:02.067 --> 00:00:03.434 looking at a screen? 3 00:00:03.434 --> 00:00:05.868 Like, actually log what you're doing and for how long? 4 00:00:05.868 --> 00:00:07.701 Well, that's what I did over the last few days, 5 00:00:07.701 --> 00:00:09.000 and on an average day, 6 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:10.734 I spent about an hour on Instagram, 7 00:00:10.734 --> 00:00:13.434 way too much time on Twitter-- over three hours-- 8 00:00:13.434 --> 00:00:15.400 and a little over an hour or so on Netflix. 9 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:16.567 So in total, 10 00:00:16.567 --> 00:00:18.234 I'm spending over five hours every day 11 00:00:18.234 --> 00:00:19.434 in front of a screen, 12 00:00:19.434 --> 00:00:20.601 and that's not counting text messages 13 00:00:20.601 --> 00:00:21.834 or listening to music. 14 00:00:21.834 --> 00:00:24.434 That's literally a quarter of my day, every day. 15 00:00:24.434 --> 00:00:26.734 So what's all this screen time doing to me? 16 00:00:26.734 --> 00:00:29.100 Well, I asked who I always ask, Google, 17 00:00:29.100 --> 00:00:30.868 and the results fell into two buckets. 18 00:00:30.868 --> 00:00:32.133 The first bucket 19 00:00:32.133 --> 00:00:33.834 blamed smartphones, video games, and social media 20 00:00:33.834 --> 00:00:36.968 for increases in depression, anxiety, and even obesity. 21 00:00:36.968 --> 00:00:38.767 The second bucket said that screen use 22 00:00:38.767 --> 00:00:40.567 might help improve how we feel about ourselves 23 00:00:40.567 --> 00:00:42.534 by keeping us connected with people. 24 00:00:42.534 --> 00:00:44.234 So what does the scientific research say? 25 00:00:44.234 --> 00:00:46.133 Is all this screen time really bad for us? 26 00:00:46.133 --> 00:00:49.234 # # 27 00:00:49.234 --> 00:00:51.133 Okay, first things first. 28 00:00:51.133 --> 00:00:53.567 "Screen time" as a term isn't that useful, 29 00:00:53.567 --> 00:00:54.868 because it doesn't really tell you 30 00:00:54.868 --> 00:00:56.367 what you're doing on the screen. 31 00:00:56.367 --> 00:00:58.667 It's kind of like if someone asks you what you had for lunch, 32 00:00:58.667 --> 00:01:01.200 and you say, "Food." 33 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.734 That doesn't really provide any real info. 34 00:01:03.734 --> 00:01:05.400 And not all screen time is created equal. 35 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:06.667 Context matters. 36 00:01:06.667 --> 00:01:08.701 Spending four hours creating a video for YouTube 37 00:01:08.701 --> 00:01:11.834 is way different than spending four hours watching cat videos. 38 00:01:11.834 --> 00:01:14.067 How you feel about and how you process each of those situations 39 00:01:14.067 --> 00:01:15.467 won't be the same. 40 00:01:15.467 --> 00:01:16.634 So lumping them under screen time 41 00:01:16.634 --> 00:01:18.334 doesn't make much sense. 42 00:01:18.334 --> 00:01:19.734 If researchers want to figure out 43 00:01:19.734 --> 00:01:21.968 what spending so much time on our screens is doing to us, 44 00:01:21.968 --> 00:01:23.734 they need to break down a few variables. 45 00:01:23.734 --> 00:01:25.934 What's the specific screen activity? 46 00:01:25.934 --> 00:01:27.868 Are we passively scrolling and looking at pictures, 47 00:01:27.868 --> 00:01:30.100 or are we commenting and posting? 48 00:01:30.100 --> 00:01:32.534 How long and how often are we on the screen? 49 00:01:32.534 --> 00:01:34.133 Because there's so much to untangle, 50 00:01:34.133 --> 00:01:36.734 the research is kind of all over the place. 51 00:01:36.734 --> 00:01:39.534 You can find individual studies that support and contradict 52 00:01:39.534 --> 00:01:43.033 just about every conclusion linking screen time and health. 53 00:01:43.033 --> 00:01:45.701 To quote the director of the National Institutes of Health, 54 00:01:45.701 --> 00:01:48.834 the research is "quite limited, has not been conclusive, 55 00:01:48.834 --> 00:01:50.467 and further study is needed." 56 00:01:50.467 --> 00:01:52.634 That's why it's crucial to look over a body of research 57 00:01:52.634 --> 00:01:54.067 to identify trends. 58 00:01:54.067 --> 00:01:55.968 All right, so let's get to it. 59 00:01:55.968 --> 00:01:57.968 Our digital lives can take a physical toll on us, 60 00:01:57.968 --> 00:01:59.267 and I'll be the first to admit 61 00:01:59.267 --> 00:02:01.701 I'm usually on my phone right before I go to bed, 62 00:02:01.701 --> 00:02:03.100 even though multiple studies have shown 63 00:02:03.100 --> 00:02:04.400 that that leads to bad sleep. 64 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:06.868 And we all know what can happen without enough sleep-- 65 00:02:06.868 --> 00:02:09.334 concentrating on things is hard, you can get irritable. 66 00:02:09.334 --> 00:02:11.100 I sort of walk around like a zombie, 67 00:02:11.100 --> 00:02:13.968 and sometimes me no make when I talk I... sense? 68 00:02:13.968 --> 00:02:14.968 Hmm. 69 00:02:14.968 --> 00:02:16.501 And it's not just me. 70 00:02:16.501 --> 00:02:19.167 In 1991, 26% of teens were getting less 71 00:02:19.167 --> 00:02:21.868 than the doctor-recommended seven hours of sleep a night. 72 00:02:21.868 --> 00:02:24.167 Today, that number is over 40%. 73 00:02:24.167 --> 00:02:26.300 Now, that doesn't mean you can place the blame on screens. 74 00:02:26.300 --> 00:02:28.133 But that same study did find that teens 75 00:02:28.133 --> 00:02:29.901 who spent five hours a day online 76 00:02:29.901 --> 00:02:32.133 were 50% more likely to not sleep enough 77 00:02:32.133 --> 00:02:34.567 than those who only spent an hour online each day. 78 00:02:34.567 --> 00:02:35.567 Hmm. 79 00:02:35.567 --> 00:02:37.000 I'm skeptical, though. 80 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.367 Who are those people that say 81 00:02:38.367 --> 00:02:39.901 they only spend an hour online a day, 82 00:02:39.901 --> 00:02:42.167 and why are they lying to researchers? 83 00:02:42.167 --> 00:02:43.934 Doesn't make sense, doesn't add up. 84 00:02:43.934 --> 00:02:46.033 Some researchers even use the term "addiction" 85 00:02:46.033 --> 00:02:48.334 when talking about how we interact with our devices. 86 00:02:48.334 --> 00:02:49.634 Whether it's video games 87 00:02:49.634 --> 00:02:51.367 or waiting for a like on an Instagram post, 88 00:02:51.367 --> 00:02:54.267 we get caught in short-term, dopamine-driven feedback loops 89 00:02:54.267 --> 00:02:55.734 where we get a quick pleasure boost, 90 00:02:55.734 --> 00:02:57.834 but then constantly crave the next one. 91 00:02:57.834 --> 00:03:00.100 Now, there's a lot of debate on whether or not this stuff 92 00:03:00.100 --> 00:03:02.200 is a bona fide addiction, like gambling. 93 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:03.400 And if you want to learn more about that, 94 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:04.868 check out our video 95 00:03:04.868 --> 00:03:07.367 that looks into whether or not video game addiction is real. 96 00:03:07.367 --> 00:03:09.100 One study in 2017 found 97 00:03:09.100 --> 00:03:10.767 that the more time people spend in front of screens, 98 00:03:10.767 --> 00:03:12.567 the more it affected their well-being. 99 00:03:12.567 --> 00:03:14.767 Their chances of developing depression and suicidal thoughts 100 00:03:14.767 --> 00:03:16.000 went up. 101 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.300 It was all the ammo the news media needed 102 00:03:17.300 --> 00:03:18.734 to fuel the panic about screen time. 103 00:03:18.734 --> 00:03:21.634 But that one study is just one study. 104 00:03:21.634 --> 00:03:23.300 Another group of researchers came along, 105 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:24.968 looked at the same data, and asked, 106 00:03:24.968 --> 00:03:27.434 "Is there really a link between screen time and depression? 107 00:03:27.434 --> 00:03:29.367 And if so, how strong is that link?" 108 00:03:29.367 --> 00:03:31.934 They found that screen time is correlated with depression, 109 00:03:31.934 --> 00:03:34.100 but that correlation is really small. 110 00:03:34.100 --> 00:03:37.601 In fact, it was the same as eating potatoes regularly. 111 00:03:37.601 --> 00:03:39.467 The correlation between wearing glasses and depression 112 00:03:39.467 --> 00:03:41.167 was even stronger. 113 00:03:41.167 --> 00:03:42.267 And we're not seeing headlines 114 00:03:42.267 --> 00:03:43.534 worrying about potatoes and glasses 115 00:03:43.534 --> 00:03:45.300 ruining an entire generation. 116 00:03:45.300 --> 00:03:48.534 So maybe screen time in general is less important than we think. 117 00:03:48.534 --> 00:03:50.100 The connection between screen time and health 118 00:03:50.100 --> 00:03:51.400 gets a little bit clearer 119 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.601 when you look at how people are using their screens. 120 00:03:53.601 --> 00:03:56.400 It's not just about quantity, it's also about the quality. 121 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.868 Passive screen time-- things like watching TV 122 00:03:58.868 --> 00:04:00.534 or scrolling through your Instagram feed-- 123 00:04:00.534 --> 00:04:02.267 is usually associated with the negative stuff 124 00:04:02.267 --> 00:04:05.534 like depression, moodiness, anxiety, and even laziness. 125 00:04:05.534 --> 00:04:06.834 Active screen time-- 126 00:04:06.834 --> 00:04:08.968 stuff that engages you physically or cognitively-- 127 00:04:08.968 --> 00:04:10.501 can actually be helpful. 128 00:04:10.501 --> 00:04:13.267 Screens also allow us to stay connected with people. 129 00:04:13.267 --> 00:04:15.667 With technology like FaceTime, I can talk to my best friend, 130 00:04:15.667 --> 00:04:17.767 who's on the other side of the country right now. 131 00:04:17.767 --> 00:04:19.367 Now, sure, some people have to deal 132 00:04:19.367 --> 00:04:20.868 with feeling overwhelmed because of trauma, 133 00:04:20.868 --> 00:04:23.534 or feeling pressure to only post a highlight reel of themselves 134 00:04:23.534 --> 00:04:25.067 to make them look good to others. 135 00:04:25.067 --> 00:04:26.300 But in many studies, 136 00:04:26.300 --> 00:04:27.767 a majority of teens say that social media 137 00:04:27.767 --> 00:04:28.868 mainly helps the relationships 138 00:04:28.868 --> 00:04:30.434 they already have with their friends, 139 00:04:30.434 --> 00:04:33.100 and almost 60% have met a new friend, like me. 140 00:04:33.100 --> 00:04:34.934 I just recently visited a homey in Canada 141 00:04:34.934 --> 00:04:36.934 who I've known online for, like, seven years. 142 00:04:36.934 --> 00:04:38.634 So that was pretty awesome. 143 00:04:38.634 --> 00:04:40.467 Shout-out to Shannon. 144 00:04:40.467 --> 00:04:41.868 And when you look at stuff 145 00:04:41.868 --> 00:04:43.734 like multi-player video games, Twitch streams, or reddit, 146 00:04:43.734 --> 00:04:46.634 wandering around online allows you to find your tribe. 147 00:04:46.634 --> 00:04:48.000 If you don't quite fit in where you live, 148 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.701 or you live in a small or isolated community, 149 00:04:49.701 --> 00:04:51.467 quality screen time might be essential 150 00:04:51.467 --> 00:04:53.701 to keeping you sane. 151 00:04:53.701 --> 00:04:54.934 So what do you think? 152 00:04:54.934 --> 00:04:56.701 What screen activities do you value, 153 00:04:56.701 --> 00:04:57.934 and what do you want to cut out? 154 00:04:57.934 --> 00:04:59.167 Let us know in the comments below. 155 00:04:59.167 --> 00:05:00.467 Oh, and we want to give a shout-out 156 00:05:00.467 --> 00:05:01.501 to Common Sense Education, 157 00:05:01.501 --> 00:05:02.734 who we collabbed with on this episode. 158 00:05:02.734 --> 00:05:04.067 Thanks a lot, guys, 159 00:05:04.067 --> 00:05:05.767 and we have two more episodes with them coming out, 160 00:05:05.767 --> 00:05:07.167 so stay tuned for those. 161 00:05:07.167 --> 00:05:09.300 And if you're a teacher, check us out on KQED Learn. 162 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:11.667 Till next time, guys-- peace out